Comments on: Health of the Nation: Bird Flu v Hasina http://shafiur.i-edit.net/?p=810 Thu, 23 May 2013 01:57:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Md [pbum] http://shafiur.i-edit.net/?p=810#comment-85885 Md [pbum] Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:22:50 +0000 http://shafiur.i-edit.net/?p=810#comment-85885 Somewhere in the house I've got a print out of Mushtaq Husain Khan's essay. I know something of what you are saying, and it's not a question of reading some group blogs. On all matters, I'm sceptical. When I said 'people of Bangladesh', I had in mind those who are involved in the political game. Of course, the disenfranchised (and no, I don't mean a herd of disenfranchised) are not in a position to endorse or censure the clientelistic politics. In the nature of the socio-economic cliques, claques, and classes that you speak of, there lies the problem in Bangladesh (and also, in the UK, with variations, of course). For me, it's never a question of ignorance, it's rather a question of accidences of pre- and post- independence Bangladesh. An attempt at rectification must be made, as you've aptly demonstrated with the issue of Biharis. Somewhere in the house I’ve got a print out of Mushtaq Husain Khan’s essay.

I know something of what you are saying, and it’s not a question of reading some group blogs. On all matters, I’m sceptical. When I said ‘people of Bangladesh’, I had in mind those who are involved in the political game. Of course, the disenfranchised (and no, I don’t mean a herd of disenfranchised) are not in a position to endorse or censure the clientelistic politics. In the nature of the socio-economic cliques, claques, and classes that you speak of, there lies the problem in Bangladesh (and also, in the UK, with variations, of course).
For me, it’s never a question of ignorance, it’s rather a question of accidences of pre- and post- independence Bangladesh. An attempt at rectification must be made, as you’ve aptly demonstrated with the issue of Biharis.

]]> By: sr http://shafiur.i-edit.net/?p=810#comment-85808 sr Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:34:17 +0000 http://shafiur.i-edit.net/?p=810#comment-85808 People of Bangladesh are to blame? Hmm. That old nut...eh? Bangladesh, for your information, is not a place with millions of people making atomistic decisions which then results in the "endorsement" of such characters. What we have in Bangladesh is clientilistic politics. We have groups lined up loyally behind one lady or the other. These lines are kept going through a system of patronage. We are not dealing with herd-like behaviour of ignorant Bengali folk as some in Drishtipat would have you believe. Rather we have vested interest groups opting in to support one personage or the other and then mobilising funds and resources to realise that political goal. If you look at Bangladeshi institutions and organisations - they are all ( or were ) neatly aligned. Trade unions, student groups, lawyers, teachers ...you name it ....none had their own voice. All were subservient to the politics of either the AL or BNP. People of Bangladesh are to blame? Hmm. That old nut…eh? Bangladesh, for your information, is not a place with millions of people making atomistic decisions which then results in the “endorsement” of such characters. What we have in Bangladesh is clientilistic politics. We have groups lined up loyally behind one lady or the other. These lines are kept going through a system of patronage. We are not dealing with herd-like behaviour of ignorant Bengali folk as some in Drishtipat would have you believe. Rather we have vested interest groups opting in to support one personage or the other and then mobilising funds and resources to realise that political goal. If you look at Bangladeshi institutions and organisations - they are all ( or were ) neatly aligned. Trade unions, student groups, lawyers, teachers …you name it ….none had their own voice. All were subservient to the politics of either the AL or BNP.

]]> By: Md [pbum] http://shafiur.i-edit.net/?p=810#comment-85768 Md [pbum] Mon, 11 Feb 2008 00:33:52 +0000 http://shafiur.i-edit.net/?p=810#comment-85768 Rational politics, if we can implement such a mode of politics, would upset a lot of people, and when one advocates a stop to familial and militaristic politics, one knows it's bound to upset friends and perceived enemies. We mustn't blame the politicians but the people of Bangladesh for repeatedly endorsing such characters. Besides corruption, the attitudes of these women (Khaleda & Hasina) are so maternalistic, one would think Bangladeshis are street urchins of sort. Rational politics, if we can implement such a mode of politics, would upset a lot of people, and when one advocates a stop to familial and militaristic politics, one knows it’s bound to upset friends and perceived enemies. We mustn’t blame the politicians but the people of Bangladesh for repeatedly endorsing such characters. Besides corruption, the attitudes of these women (Khaleda & Hasina) are so maternalistic, one would think Bangladeshis are street urchins of sort.

]]> By: sr http://shafiur.i-edit.net/?p=810#comment-85685 sr Sat, 09 Feb 2008 06:18:36 +0000 http://shafiur.i-edit.net/?p=810#comment-85685 Does the CTG have the capacity to try her properly? Who knows? But what is a scream is that they are saying the trials are subject to political influence. I mean....ah why go there. Can you imagine everyone being let off? LOL. That would be pretty apolitical no? And justice will have been served? Does the CTG have the capacity to try her properly? Who knows? But what is a scream is that they are saying the trials are subject to political influence. I mean….ah why go there.

Can you imagine everyone being let off? LOL. That would be pretty apolitical no? And justice will have been served?

]]> By: Sunny http://shafiur.i-edit.net/?p=810#comment-85663 Sunny Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:29:49 +0000 http://shafiur.i-edit.net/?p=810#comment-85663 You make an excellent point! If Hasina is not tried for her crimes of the past then the criminals of 1971 cannot be tried either. A crime happens in the past thats the why the criminal is tried in the present. What's going on in the minds of the high court?? Hasina is a criminal, Bangladeshis all around the world know it. You make an excellent point! If Hasina is not tried for her crimes of the past then the criminals of 1971 cannot be tried either. A crime happens in the past thats the why the criminal is tried in the present. What’s going on in the minds of the high court?? Hasina is a criminal, Bangladeshis all around the world know it.

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